Ecumenical Confusion

“It now becomes a serious question how far those who abide by the faith once delivered to the saints should fraternize with those who have turned aside to another gospel. Christian love has its claims, and divisions are to be shunned as grievous sins, but how far are we justified in being in confederacy with those who are departing from the truth?”

Charles Haddon Spurgeon

In the nineteenth century Spurgeon confronted those that were departing from the truth. Today it has even become more prevalent and more excepted and more confusing. What is astounding and confusing to me is how men that are supposed to know the word of God and the doctrine of Justification can be deceived by this?

There are many “Christians” that are unaware of what Christ meant when He said, “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me” (John: 17:21).

Who are “they” that Jesus was talking about? Is it all that claim to be Christians regardless what they believe about what Justifies us? There are many ecumenical meetings going on these day’s including “professing Christians” along with cultic believers and pagans.

Following are some excerpts of the heretical and confusing things going on in the name of Ecumenism and Unity.

“Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification” signed on October 31, 1999, by the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation which is made up mostly of the ELCA. Evangelical Lutheran Church of America.

This misleading document is another attempt by Rome on its path to draw all into its fold. It was rejected by the Missouri Synod Lutheran church and the Wisconsin Synod. LC-MS President A.L. Barry said, It is “a woefully inadequate and misleading document and a betrayal of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”

Here is part of a survey taken of students at Wheaten College by T.A. McMahon (T.A. McMahon–former Catholic at Wheaten College):

Recently I returned from a conference sponsored by the Wheaten College Graduate School Department of Bible and Theology and InterVarsity Press titled “Catholics and Evangelicals in Conversation. However, before sharing my observations concerning the significance of the conference and the increasing influence of ECT, let me share my experiences with the students of Wheaten College……….

At the end of the conference I drafted a survey and spent the afternoon roaming the campus interviewing about 100 more students……..

My final question (given the responses, in retrospect it seemed inane) was this: “Have you ever had a class here in which you were taught about Roman Catholicism, and then encouraged to witness to Catholics?”  All but one student said no.  Excitedly I asked the young man to tell me the name of

the class and his professor. “Oh,” he said, “it wasn’t a class — it was my soccer coach!”

I rarely get depressed, but this moved me to the fringe of that condition.  Could it really be that this next generation of evangelicals is convinced there is no significant difference between Catholics and biblically born-again Christians?

The world council of churches

The Bangkok conference of this program was opened by the president of the World Buddhist Society. In her prayer she called on the gods of all religions to save mankind. ·

The Nairobi conference of the WCC expressed itself in favor of the more intimate unification of humanity. One of the sessions on spirituality was attended by Protestant, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Pentecostal Christians, as well as Hindus, Buddhists and an atheist. At the 1983

conference in Vancouver, Canada, explicit recognition was given to the traditional religion of the Red Indians. A totem pole was erected in honor of all their tribal spirits.

At The 1991 conference at Canberra in Australia conference, recognition was again given to the traditional tribal religion of the host country.

Witchdoctors of the Australian Aborigines made a ritual fire with wet gum-tree leaves, from which thick clouds of smoke arose. The 4000 representatives to the conference were requested to walk through the smoke in order to obtain the blessing of the ancestral spirits. Some of the representatives said that this was a very wonderful experience as the

presence of the Holy Spirit could also be sensed in the smoke.


The Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) ….The Council’s “Decree on Ecumenism” states that ecumenical activity cannot result in changing any aspect of the Catholic faith. This foundational principle is reflected in the post conciliar documents dealing with ecumenism. For example, Post

Conciliar Document:

No. 42 says that the purpose of ecumenism is to transform the thinking and behavior of non-Catholics so that eventually all Christians will be united in one Church. It states, “This unity, we believe, dwells in the Catholic Church.”  In other words, “unity” means that all Christians will

become Roman Catholics.

(Mary Ann Collins-former Catholic Nun).

The Papacy and Islam

by Richard Bennett; Former Catholic Priest:

In his message to the predominately Muslim nation of Kazakhstan twelve days after the horrors of September 11th, 2001, the Pope declared, “‘There is one God’. The Apostle proclaims before all else the absolute oneness of God. This is a truth which Christians inherited from the children of Israel and which they share with Muslims: it is faith in the one God, ‘Lord of heaven and earth’

The Pope continues, “. ‘The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and

together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.'”  The Roman Catholic Church officially declares that the One God of Holy Scripture is also the God of Islam.”

At this moment of history the Ecumenism of accommodation, with the Pope leading the pack, accepts Islam as a great religion. The true believer must decide where he or she stands. “And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve.”

Confusion in St. Louis

One of the most confusing ecumenical meetings is the one that happened June 21-23, 2000 in St. Louis, MO. Of the thousands present, the Conference was made up of 15,000 — Classical Pentecostals, Charismatic Protestants, and Charismatic Roman Catholics. About half were Catholics.

The main stated focus of the meetings was to promote Ecumenical unity.

Some of our leading Evangelical ministers were speakers. When I asked one of our well known Pentecostal leaders about his motive in going and speaking, his answer was, ” To share a common experience.” It was based merely on “experience” and not our unity of the word of God. Those that have read my testimony of my years with the Catholic Charismatic’s know what I feel about that.

“There were hundreds of books for sale on every facet of Catholic doctrine and practice, including the papacy, Mariolatry, the Saints, and Purgatory.  There were rosaries and Madonna’s for sale. There were travel agencies that specialize in arranging pilgrimages to “Mary shrines”…….

Because the meeting is ecumenical and involves participants from dozens of denominations, and there are a variety of gospels representatives. To have clarified the gospel would have destroyed the ecumenical unity……..

Tom Forrest, Catholic priest who was one of the speakers at the convention, had said “that he evangelizes by walking through the streets of Rome praying the ‘mysteries of the rosary” (which is largely a prayer to Mary) for the people he passes. This demonstrates that he understands neither salvation nor evangelism in a biblical sense, yet he is exalted as a Spirit-filled, evangelical Catholic.

Forrest said that he praises God for purgatory, because he knows that unless there is a place where his sin can be purged he cannot go to Heaven.

There was much confusion at the meeting as to what being born again or saved was. Many participants were asked when they came to know Christ or when they were born again and the confusion was astounding.

The communion of all particular Churches with the Church of Rome: a necessary condition for unity.)

Pope John Paul ll

That They May Be One

This is just a sample of the confusion in the Church of Christ today. More could be said. There is the ECT document (Evangelicals and Catholics together) which is a betrayal of the ‘Gospel and signed by some of our leading Evangelicals and there other atrocities done in the name of Unity and Ecumenism.

As a classical Pentecostal that is founded on the truth of Justification by Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, I cry out to God to open the eyes of my brother and sister Evangelicals and that others will sound the alarm with me.

Who is standing for the Gospel? Those who join with Rome in calling for unity without regard for doctrinal differences? Or those who stand firm on the Word of God?

Bill Scudder

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